huge payments which would prompt the question, what am i getting here, silence. his father has been unhappy with his management of this scandal. but, his father is -- there's a lot of pressure from the children, for the father to stay -- to not be involved, to stay out. you know, these are very accomplished, his children are accomplished, and he is devoted to them. and -- and then there's wendy, his wife, in her pososion, it's -- >> you know, to bring it back to where it really affects our daily lives, the division, if you like, or the relationship between the press, politics and power, is that an issue here as well? i mean, look, let's not beat around the bush, murdock's big property is foxnews. that has a strong effect on power, certainly within the republican power, not talking about current issues. >> let's bring us down to earth for a second.